Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/14/1996 09:02 AM House HES

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           JOINT HOUSE & SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND                          
                   SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                                   
                       February 14, 1996                                       
                           9:02 a.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
 HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                         
                                                                               
 Representative Cynthia Toohey, Co-Chair                                       
 Representative Gary Davis                                                     
 Representative Tom Brice                                                      
 Representative Caren Robinson                                                 
                                                                               
 HOUSE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                          
                                                                               
 Representative Con Bunde, Co-Chair                                            
 Representative Al Vezey                                                       
 Representative Norman Rokeberg                                                
                                                                               
 SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                        
                                                                               
 Senator Lyda Green, Chairman                                                  
 Senator Loren Leman, Vice-Chairman                                            
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                          
 Senator Judy Salo                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                         
                                                                               
 Senator Mike Miller                                                           
                                                                               
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                            
                                                                               
 Presentation by the Alaska Native Health Board.                               
                                                                               
 WITNESS REGISTER                                                              
                                                                               
 LINCOLN BEAN, SR., Chairman                                                   
 Alaska Native Health Board                                                    
 1345 Rudakof Circle                                                           
 Anchorage, Alaska 99508                                                       
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the opening statement.                         
                                                                               
 The following Alaska Native Health Board members presented the                
 Alaska Native Health Board's legislative priorities for fiscal year           
 1997:                                                                         
                                                                               
 Cindy Thomas, Morgan Solomon, Tim Kaganak, Anne Marie Holen, Cheryl           
 Edenshaw, Michael Hunt, Katherine Grosdidier                                  
                                                                               
 ACTION NARRATIVE                                                              
                                                                               
 TAPE 96-9, SIDE A                                                             
                                                                               
        Presentation by the Alaska Native Health Board                       
                                                                               
 Number 003                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN called the Joint House & Senate Health, Education              
 and Social Services (HESS) Committee to order at 9:02 a.m. and                
 invited the Alaska Native Health Board to begin its presentation.             
                                                                               
 LINCOLN BEAN, Chairman of the Alaska Native Health Board (ANHB),              
 appreciated the time to present their legislative priorities.  He             
 noted that the committee had copies of the ANHB State Legislative             
 Priorities for the Fiscal Year 1997 booklet.  He pointed out the              
 ANHB has identified two health priorities this year.  The first               
 being water and sanitation services for rural communities and the             
 second is the increase in state tobacco taxes.  He said that the              
 ANHB would like to work with the committee on these issues in order           
 to develop plans for improvements in state policies and services.             
                                                                               
 The members of the Alaska Native Health Board attending the meeting           
 then introduced themselves.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 120                                                                    
                                                                               
 CINDY THOMAS, Coordinator of the Rural Alaska Sanitation Coalition,           
 acknowledged the past legislature for continuing to fund sanitation           
 at a level allowing work to continue at the existing $1 billion of            
 unmet needs.  She hoped to see that same commitment next year.  She           
 pointed out three priorities for village water and sanitation:                
                                                                               
      (1) Sustained consistent funding.  Ms. Thomas pointed out                
      that the federal government's legislation contains                       
      authorization language in the Department of Administration               
      for sustained funding at the federal level.  Hopefully the               
      state and federal  governments will continue to work in a                
      partnership on this in order to receive the needed levels of             
      funding.                                                                 
                                                                               
      (2) Resources for operations and maintenance.  Ms. Thomas felt           
      that the Remote Maintenance Worker (RMW) program and the Rural           
      Utility Business Advisors should both be viewed as a capital             
      investment as well as a public health investment.  EPA has               
      made a commitment of $1.1 million over the next two years, but           
      that requires a state match in some form.                                
                                                                               
      (3) Water and sanitation services for all village health                 
      clinics.  Over 30 communities still operate without water and            
      sewer.  There was a commitment from Alaska in the fiscal years           
      1993 and 1994 to provide supplemental funds to hook these                
      clinics to water and sewer services.  That is not present in             
      the 1995 or 1996 budgets.  There is $325,000 to start up that            
      program.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Ms. Thomas pointed out that the booklet contains a list of the                
 villages and the funding needed to meet their sanitation needs.               
 The total funding necessary for all those villages would be                   
 approximately $800 million which does not include basic compliance,           
 new homes, or health clinics.                                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asked if a portion of the quarter million dollar                
 match by Alaska could be obtained through local matches.  CINDY               
 THOMAS explained that the program requires state and local matches.           
 The communities are expected to match dollar for dollar, $1                   
 million, which is not reflected in the booklet.  The state is also            
 expected to match the $1 million in cash or kind.  The total                  
 program would then be $3 million.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 199                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY inquired as to where the funding would                  
 normally be received regarding the care and maintenance of the                
 projects.  CINDY THOMAS said that it had historically come from RMW           
 through over the shoulder training.  There is also water plant                
 operator training through the village safe water program.  Indian             
 Health Services also contributes a small portion of their funding             
 for training.  Ms. Thomas noted that training in the areas of                 
 management of the system, the collection of fees and maintenance of           
 the stock and supplies is also necessary.  Currently, there is no             
 funding for that training.                                                    
                                                                               
 MORGAN SOLOMON, ANHB member, stated that rural water and sanitation           
 is an important issue and has been since statehood.  He was happy             
 that the Knowles' Administration recognized the need for sound                
 water and sanitation in rural areas.  There is a $1 billion program           
 for rural water and sanitation.  Mr. Solomon emphasized that water            
 and sanitation is a must due to the environmental impact poor                 
 sanitation creates.  He reiterated the need for a commitment from             
 everyone - the House, the Senate, the Administration - to improve             
 water and sanitation in Alaska.                                               
                                                                               
 MR. SOLOMON pointed out that not long ago the North Slope Borough             
 utilized its bonding capabilities to fund water and sewer for                 
 Barrow which still continues today and will eventually include all            
 the North Slope villages.  The Nenana and the central regions need            
 the same program that the North Slope Borough now enjoys.  He                 
 acknowledged that oil money is diminishing.  He discussed his                 
 wonderful experience in receiving running water.  Honeybuckets                
 should only be in museums.  The youth of this state are its most              
 important asset and they should grow up in clean environments.                
 There are lots of problems associated with unsanitary surroundings            
 one of which is hepatitis.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 294                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY pointed out that the booklet notes the                  
 following contributions to rural water and sanitation by the                  
 corresponding legislatures:  FY1993-$24 million, FY1994-$26.5                 
 million, FY1995-$21.7 million, FY1996-$21.5 million.  She applauded           
 Mr. Solomon's efforts.                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN expressed concern with the cost of delivering these             
 projects in rural Alaska.  He was convinced that the current system           
 practically ensures that the highest cost project is done.  How can           
 a quality product be delivered at a cheaper cost?                             
                                                                               
 MORGAN SOLOMON believed that arctic condition type facilities                 
 should continue.  Such facilities mechanically maintain themselves.           
 Feasibility studies should be utilized in order to avoid cost                 
 overruns.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 323                                                                    
                                                                               
 In response to Senator Leman, MORGAN SOLOMON said that the project            
 in Wainwright has worked well.  The project is no longer a                    
 demonstration project.  Water and sewer will come on-line this year           
 under Phase I.  Phase II is scheduled to begin in March.                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO inquired as to the year Mr. Solomon received his                 
 toilet.  MORGAN SOLOMON said that he received his toilet about six            
 years ago.                                                                    
                                                                               
 TIM KAGANAK, ANHB member, said that the issues remain the same.               
 The biggest need in rural Alaska is water and sewer.  He informed             
 the committee that these projects are done in phases, often the               
 second year is not funded and the project is frozen.                          
                                                                               
 Number 370                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. KAGANAK informed the committee that in his area there are 58              
 clinics in the villages.  These clinics need to be clean.  He                 
 emphasized that some of the clinics have honeybuckets and do not              
 have running water.  This lack of sanitation should not be present            
 in any health clinic.  Mr. Kaganak said that clean water and                  
 sanitation could be achieved if everyone worked together.  He                 
 emphasized that many legislators have constituents that do not have           
 running water.  Furthermore, the tuberculosis outbreak remains.               
                                                                               
 Number 398                                                                    
                                                                               
 ANNE MARIE HOLEN, Manager of the Tobacco Control Program at ANHB,             
 expressed frustration with the way the tobacco tax has become                 
 politicized in regards to dealing with the fiscal gap.  As members            
 of the HESS committees, Ms. Holen hoped the tobacco tax would be              
 viewed as a public health benefit.  A major tobacco tax increase              
 would be justified even without a fiscal gap.  The revenues                   
 generated, the over $40 million per year, could be seen as a bonus.           
 Ms. Holen stated that the real benefit of the tax is in the                   
 significant reduction of nicotine addiction, especially among                 
 Alaska's youth, and tobacco related death and disease in Alaska.              
 According to research, taxation is the single most powerful weapon            
 in reducing tobacco use.  The tobacco tax increase would keep                 
 youths off of drugs, reduce the leading cause of death in Alaska,             
 reduce the economic impact of tobacco use ($300 million a year per            
 the Section of Epidemiology), generate money, while enjoying                  
 support across all political spectrums.  Ms. Holen informed                   
 everyone that last month a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Survey              
 reported that 74 percent of Alaskans support a $1 per pack increase           
 in the cigarette tax.  This is a nonpartisan issue.                           
                                                                               
 MS. HOLEN commented that tobacco use is not merely a Native problem           
 in Alaska.  Rates of the use among white Alaskans is also higher              
 than the national average.  She noted that non-smokers face the               
 effects of exposure to second-hand smoke, the burden of high health           
 care costs, and the heart ache of seeing others struggling with               
 nicotine addiction and disease caused by tobacco use.  Tobacco use            
 in Alaska kills more Alaskans than airplane crashes, automobile               
 crashes, alcohol, and firearms combined.  The Legislature has a               
 responsibility, which is specified in Alaska's Constitution, to               
 take meaningful action to address the epidemic of tobacco related             
 death and disease in Alaska.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 440                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asked Ms. Holen to estimate the ratio of the cost of            
 tobacco use in terms of health care versus the revenue derived from           
 its use.  Based on 1991 data, ANNE MARIE HOLEN said that for every            
 $1 raised in tobacco tax revenues $7 worth of detrimental impact on           
 the economy resulted.  That detrimental impact is health care                 
 costs, lost work time, or lost productivity.                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON asked Ms. Holen if she had discussed the              
 notion of placing a portion of the revenue generated from the                 
 tobacco tax in the Children's Trust to be utilized for prevention.            
 ANNE MARIE HOLEN did not know how that would be done legislatively,           
 but would support the concept.  Ms. Holen mentioned that in other             
 states that have raised tobacco taxes and appropriated money for              
 tobacco control programs, the impact of the tax increase is                   
 magnified.                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHERYL EDENSHAW, ANHB member, reiterated that the ANHB has been a             
 long time supporter of the tobacco tax increase.  She expressed               
 concern with Alaska's high rate of smoking in Alaska in comparison            
 to the rest of the United States.  She informed the committee that            
 one in five deaths in Alaska is caused by tobacco which is more               
 than those killed by AIDS, airplane crashes, automobile accidents,            
 fires, falls, and firearms all combined.  The Alaska Native rate of           
 smoking is higher than that for all races combined.  Alaska's                 
 Native population comprises 16.5 percent of the entire state's                
 population and accounts for 23.2 percent of Alaska's smoking                  
 related deaths.  Ms. Edenshaw acknowledged that a tobacco tax would           
 not eliminate the use of tobacco, but the benefits far outweigh the           
 harm.  A tax increase is one of the most effective methods to                 
 reduce tobacco consumption, death, and disease.  The ANHB urges the           
 committee to support the passage of SB 234 and HB 442 as                      
 recommended by the Long-Range Financial Planning Commission and               
 Governor Knowles.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 483                                                                    
                                                                               
 MICHAEL HUNT, Yukon-Kuskokim Health Corporation board member,                 
 discussed his travel experiences in which he has seen many youth              
 using tobacco as well as deaths of the elderly tobacco users.  He             
 informed the committee that he quit smoking 28 years ago and                  
 believed that he had extended his life 10 to 15 years.  He feels              
 healthy.  This tobacco tax could cut tobacco use by one-third.  Mr.           
 Hunt also supported SB 234 and HB 442.  In conclusion, he urged the           
 committee's support of the tobacco tax in order to strive for                 
 better health for all Alaskans.                                               
                                                                               
 KATHERINE GROSDIDIER, Executive Director for South Central                    
 Foundation, explained that it is a nonprofit arm of the Cook Inlet            
 Region.  The foundation serves the Anchorage Native population and            
 represents them on the ANHB.  She passed out information regarding            
 the Anchorage Native Primary Health Care Center which should be               
 added to the committee packet.  The new Alaska Native Medical                 
 Center was planned in the early 1980s.  The Anchorage population              
 has grown and the need for primary care services has doubled.  When           
 the new Alaska Native Medical Center opens in 1997, the center will           
 contain fewer primary care rooms than needed.                                 
                                                                               
 Number 535                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. GROSDIDIER explained that the foundation proposes to open a               
 38,000 square foot primary care facility which would be located in            
 front of the new hospital.  She passed around diagrams illustrating           
 the position of the primary care facility and its layout.  The                
 facility would provide an additional 60 rooms in order to meet the            
 needs of the increasing population of Anchorage.  The facility                
 would have 140 full-time employees which is a $60 million payroll             
 per year.  She pointed out that the facility would have two floors            
 which would house primary care clinics, family medicine,                      
 pediatrics, and mental health.  This facility would provide                   
 statewide services to the Anchorage population.  More than 200                
 tribes support this project as well as the Alaska Native Health               
 Care and Indian Health Service system.  She informed the committee            
 that lease payments have been secured through private and federal             
 funding; operation funds are provided.  Currently, money is                   
 accumulating for this project through South Central Foundation's              
 third party revenues.  She said that the foundation is looking for            
 a state match for a federal match of $875,000.  The total need is             
 $1.75 million for medical equipment and voice data communication.             
 She emphasized that the new facility's plan and methodology was               
 wonderful for the 1980s, but the growing population of the 1990s              
 which increased the space needed for the primary care was                     
 overlooked.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 563                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY said that this was the first she had heard of           
 this facility.  She was appalled at this need and the                         
 shortsightedness that has created this need.  Where did the funding           
 come from for the new hospital?  KATHERINE GROSDIDIER replied that            
 it all came from federal funds.  REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY inquired as            
 to the federal government's position on this new construction.                
 KATHERINE GROSDIDIER explained that the foundation is meeting with            
 a congressional delegation which reported that if there is a state            
 match, the federal government would be amenable to giving the                 
 $875,000.  That would be half of the match for the medical                    
 equipment and the data voice communication.  The federal government           
 would provide the funding for the building.                                   
                                                                               
 In response to Representative Robinson, KATHERINE GROSDIDIER stated           
 that currently, there is no funding in the Governor's capital                 
 budget for this.                                                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO commented that was her first time hearing of the need            
 for the primary care facility.  The hospital looks huge now.                  
 KATHERINE GROSDIDIER agreed that this a surprise to everyone, but             
 the need is a result of the methodology used in the early 1980s.              
 The facility is a solution developed by the South Central                     
 Foundation who was informed of the problem by Indian Health                   
 Services about two years ago.  Ms. Grosdidier pointed out that                
 little administrative space was used in order to maximize the                 
 number of primary care exam rooms.                                            
                                                                               
 TAPE 96-9, SIDE B                                                             
                                                                               
 MS. GROSDIDIER discussed the waiting problems in the new hospital.            
 Clinicians need two exam rooms; putting one patient in an exam room           
 while seeing another patient is more efficient.                               
                                                                               
 Number 585                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY asked if the notion behind this was to bring            
 everyone to Anchorage.  Will the health center treat people                   
 statewide?  Why is this collecting everyone; what happened to the             
 hospitals in Bethel and Nome?                                                 
                                                                               
 KATHERINE GROSDIDIER explained that Bethel and Nome's hospitals               
 will continue to operate for their constituents.  The Alaska Native           
 Medical Center is a statewide referral hospital which offers out-             
 patient services.  The South Central Foundation operates many of              
 the primary care services which is why the foundation is involved.            
 The out-patient services that provide services statewide will be              
 moved to this new clinic and would continue to provide statewide              
 services.                                                                     
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY expressed concern with the decrease in                  
 available funds nationwide due to the increasing population.  Why             
 would everyone be brought to Anchorage, increase travel costs, in             
 lieu of health care money?                                                    
                                                                               
 KATHERINE GROSDIDIER explained that the current user population in            
 the Anchorage area is over 100,000 patient visits; the statewide              
 referral system accounts for 25 to 35 percent.  Ms. Grosdidier                
 explained that people receive out-patient care in the Bethel area,            
 but if they visit Anchorage and need an out-patient service then              
 they come to the hospital.  Only those visiting or requiring in-              
 patient services would utilize the Anchorage hospital, otherwise,             
 their own regional hospitals are used for out-patient services.               
 Currently, more than 70 to 80 percent of the out-patient users are            
 Anchorage based Native people.                                                
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN thanked everyone for their presentation.  There                
 being no further business before the joint committee, the joint               
 meeting was adjourned at 10:49 a.m.                                           
                                                                               

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